2008.040.003 Oral History Interview with Ching Yeh Chen February 6, 2008

 

Born in Chongqing, China and raised in Taiwan, Ching Yeh Chen came to the United States in 1971 to pursue a graduate and masters degree. Chen finally settled in New York and joined her husband operating a retail corporation, Pearl River Market, which was officially founded in 1980. Discussing the history of Pearl River, Chen explains that the corporation had been created to introduce the “real China” to the American society, since as Chen argues there was no significant relationship between the two countries at that time. Some of the challenges the company confronted included government suspicions, increasing rent prices, and an ever-changing customer base. Chen describes Chinatown as being a relatively unsafe environment during the seventies and eighties, which she believes began to change in 1990. She also describes both the rise of the American tourist clientele during the 1990s and the shrinking Chinese garment factory customer base. Finally, she predicts that after a decade, when their lease expires, Pearl River may fade away, as she and her husband will be reaching retirement age and the business will not be handed down to their children. Nonetheless, from her perspective, change is invaluable and Chinatown businesses and residents must be open to the neighborhood evolving – “that’s the challenge, that’s the pressure, that’s the fun.”

0:00 - Introduction, Born in China and raised in Taipei, Taiwan, Moving to the United States to pursue graduate and masters degrees, Moving to New York City and beginning to work at Pearl River Market, Pearl River Market founded in 1971 as cultural bridge to introduce China to Americans 简介,在中国出生,在台湾台北长大,移居美国攻读研究生获得硕士学位,搬到纽约,开始在珠江市场工作,珠江市场成立于1971年,是把中国介绍给美国人的文化桥梁

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11:01 - Father was in Nationalist army, Family moved to Taiwan in 1949 from Chongqing, Language barrier in Chinatown between Mandarin/Cantonese speakers and Toisanese speakers, Many Taiwanese graduate students travel to America for opportunities, Raising children in New York with strong sense of Chinese community 父亲在国民党军队,1949年全家从重庆移居台湾,在唐人街讲普通话/粤语和讲台山话的人之间的语言障碍,许多台湾研究生前往美国寻找机会,在纽约抚养孩子带着强烈的华人社区意识

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19:35 - First two Pearl River locations on Catherine street and Elizabeth street, Business owners can never afford to buy buildings in Chinatown, Rent increase forces Chens to find new location in 1986 at Oltarsh building on corner of Broadway and Canal, Open Grand Street location in 1988 because it’s closer to Chinatown 前两个珠江市场的位置在凯瑟琳街和伊丽莎白街,企业主永远买不起唐人街的楼,租金上涨迫使陈先生于 1986 年在百老汇和坚尼街拐角处的Oltarsh大楼找到新位置,因为离唐人街比较近,1988 年在格兰街开店

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29:30 - Canal street was considered far from Chinatown and dangerous in 1980s, Word of mouth increases American clientele significant in 1990s, Asian fashion becomes increasingly popular because of magazine and newspaper coverage during ‘90s, Rise of supermarkets and closure of garment factories decreased customers in Chinatown considerably 坚尼街在1980年代被认为远离唐人街并且危险,1990年代因为口口相传增加了美国客户,由于 90 年代杂志和报纸的报道,亚洲时尚变得越来越流行,超市的兴起和服装工厂的关闭大大减少了唐人街的客户

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40:33 - Chinese immigrant population has adapted to shopping at American chain stores, Changes in Pearl River inventory to accommodate American customers and tourists, Borders of Chinatown are expanding while neighborhoods are gentrifying, Loss of garment factories changed Chinatown population significantly 中国移民人口已适应在美国连锁店购物,珠江通过库存变化以适应美国顾客和游客的喜好,唐人街的边界正在扩大而社区正在贵族化,服装工厂的消失显著改变了唐人街的人口

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47:20 - Counterfeit goods market in Chinatown driven by market demand, Gang members and detectives investigating counterfeit vendors makes Canal street more chaotic and messy, Progressive roots caused FBI to investigate Chens for relationship to mainland China until normalization of US-China relations in 1979 唐人街假货市场受市场需求驱动,帮派和侦探调查假货商使坚尼街更加混乱和凌乱,进步的根基导致FBI调查陈氏与中国大陆的关系,直到1979年美中关系正常化

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57:44 - Pearl River Market occupies 13,000 square feet in Oltarsh building, Gradual decay of once vibrant Canal Jeans store, Need for constant evolution and change in order to stay in business in New York City, Discuss reputation of Music Palace 珠江市场占据Oltarsh大楼的13,000 平方英尺,曾经充满活力的Canal Jeans商店逐渐衰败,需要不断改进和变化才能在纽约市继续营业,讨论璇宫戏院的声誉

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66:58 - Talk about Phoenix Poultry Market, Expensive hotels opening in Chinatown, Centre Street Machinery Exchange building, Enjoying Chinese New Year time, Mr. Luo is a community pioneer who promoted Confucius Plaza 谈凤凰家禽市场,唐人街开高档酒店,中央街机械交易楼,享受中国农历新年,罗先生是推广孔子大厦的社区先锋

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75:21 - Buildings and streets have not changed much, Change is necessary but bittersweet, Will not expand Pearl River Market because the business model cannot be copied into a smaller version and they are limited in manpower, New York culture is only place a Pearl River Market could exist, Pearl River is a goal of Chen’s generation not younger generation 建筑物和街道没有太大变化,变化是必要的,但苦乐参半,不会扩大珠江市场,因为商业模式不能复制到较小的版本中,而且人力有限,纽约的文化使纽约成为珠江市场可以存在的唯一地方,珠江是陈氏这一代而非年轻一代的目标

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