1990.015.003 Oral History Interview with David Chin (3)

 

David is a member of the New York Chinatown community who opened a laundry business before the Great Depression. He arrived in Chinatown in 1927, and exploring streets such as Bayard and Mott, observed a community with Chinese fabric stores, banks, drugstores, coffee shops, a theater, a dance hall, and a subway. Despite this economic vibrancy, areas such as Division Street were plagued by crime and instability. David opened a laundry business that was successful at first, but it was severely impacted by the Great Depression in 1929, which detrimentally affected his operations and financial stability. The economic downturn prevented him from returning to China and intensified the challenges within the community. However, the strong sense of mutual support among Chinese grocery store owners helped many survive, ensuring no one went hungry despite the economic hardships. David pointed out the existence of Jewish businesses in Chinatown and the difficulties experienced by Chinese grocers with limited English skills. Members of the community who learned English did so through Sunday schools and the neighborhood churches. Many laundrymen stayed in their laundries across the city and came to Chinatown on Sundays. They addressed the challenge of navigating the city with limited English language skills by providing cabdrivers with written addresses, counting lights and steps, and counting stops when taking the subway. David stressed the importance of being cautious, avoiding suspicious individuals, and relying on community support when necessary. This interview is one of three conducted with David Chin in 1990. Please note that the audio quality is low in parts of the interview.

0:00 - Introduction. Discusses arriving in New York City's Chinatown in 1927. David describes the neighborhood, highlighting various streets like Bayard and Mott. He recalls various businesses, including a store specializing in imported Chinese fabrics, a popular American bank, drugstores, coffee shops, a theater, a dance hall, and the subway

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12:22 - Mentions Division Street, where robberies and violence involving various groups

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14:11 - Mentions streets like Mott Street and Pell Street, noting grocery stores and churches. Also talks about how community members gathered on Sundays to share news from their villages in China, and temporary accommodations for people who lost their jobs

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18:54 - David mentions staying at a 25 Pell Street apartment when he first came to New York. David describes a communal living situation where many people resided together and notes that those who worked in laundries sometimes slept in the laundromats

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22:50 - Continue to talk about different streets and various aspects of Chinatown, including businesses, churches, grocery stores, lawyer's offices, schools, and the presence of Chinese children in the community

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25:27 - David mentions that 5,000 years ago in China, several last names belonged to one family. He also talks about gambling in Chinatown being associated with crime and asserts the need for caution due to the dangers of revealing one's town of origin

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28:29 - David talks about business in Chinatown, particularly his laundry business, which was initially profitable but severely impacted by the Great Depression in 1929. Despite being a low-capital, safe investment, the economic downturn made operations difficult. His plan to earn money in the US and return to China was thwarted by the Depression

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33:02 - Highlights the Depression's impact on lives and businesses. Despite hardships, the Chinese grocery store owner still helped many people survive and ensured that no one went hungry. David also notes a rise in suicides due to economic hardship, unemployment, and mental health issues

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39:17 - Talks about Jewish businesses in Chinatown, which often sold clothes and shoes, and recalls meeting a Jewish family

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43:35 - David discusses the challenges faced by the Chinese community in Chinatown. Only merchants could bring their families. Most grocery stores had at least one individual who spoke limited English, which he learned at church. He also highlights Mary Banta's missionary work among Chinese and the importance of Sunday school and the churches in community support

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48:35 - David talks about the streets initially occupied by Italians and were later taken over by the Chinese. He mentions the police locations and the streets not to cross beyond as a child. People would stay in their laundries and visit Chinatown on Sundays. Due to limited English skills, they navigated the city by giving the cab an address on paper, and counting stops on the subway

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53:04 - Discusses family stories and community interactions, emphasizing the need to be cautious, avoid shady individuals, and protect oneself

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